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... resetting the MSP430 clears the hung state. I've slowed down the i2c clock freq, beefed up the PSupply, changed pull-up resistors - no change. However I made the "errors" increase significantly by busying the ARM with 2 calculation-intensive programs. I use Python in RPi, using smbus, SMBUS and
i2c_LCD_driver and try/except routines in the RPi to catch the bad access and reset the MSP - after that, accesses every 5 seconds continue fine until the next hang, ~1000 accesses later. I use C for the ISRs to manage interrupts in the MSP430.



I know both devices have hardware state machines that manage the i2c. Given that I can hang the bus by overworking the RPi, my suspicion was/is the implementation of the canned i2c python code. Is anyone aware of any weird
stuff about the Broadcom Serial Controller (BSC) i2c controller in the ARM that would hang a slave's state machine based on busy-ness of the OS managing the BSC ... or other cases of very intermittent bus hangs ?









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    ... resetting the MSP430 clears the hung state. I've slowed down the i2c clock freq, beefed up the PSupply, changed pull-up resistors - no change. However I made the "errors" increase significantly by busying the ARM with 2 calculation-intensive programs. I use Python in RPi, using smbus, SMBUS and
    i2c_LCD_driver and try/except routines in the RPi to catch the bad access and reset the MSP - after that, accesses every 5 seconds continue fine until the next hang, ~1000 accesses later. I use C for the ISRs to manage interrupts in the MSP430.



    I know both devices have hardware state machines that manage the i2c. Given that I can hang the bus by overworking the RPi, my suspicion was/is the implementation of the canned i2c python code. Is anyone aware of any weird
    stuff about the Broadcom Serial Controller (BSC) i2c controller in the ARM that would hang a slave's state machine based on busy-ness of the OS managing the BSC ... or other cases of very intermittent bus hangs ?









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      ... resetting the MSP430 clears the hung state. I've slowed down the i2c clock freq, beefed up the PSupply, changed pull-up resistors - no change. However I made the "errors" increase significantly by busying the ARM with 2 calculation-intensive programs. I use Python in RPi, using smbus, SMBUS and
      i2c_LCD_driver and try/except routines in the RPi to catch the bad access and reset the MSP - after that, accesses every 5 seconds continue fine until the next hang, ~1000 accesses later. I use C for the ISRs to manage interrupts in the MSP430.



      I know both devices have hardware state machines that manage the i2c. Given that I can hang the bus by overworking the RPi, my suspicion was/is the implementation of the canned i2c python code. Is anyone aware of any weird
      stuff about the Broadcom Serial Controller (BSC) i2c controller in the ARM that would hang a slave's state machine based on busy-ness of the OS managing the BSC ... or other cases of very intermittent bus hangs ?









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      ... resetting the MSP430 clears the hung state. I've slowed down the i2c clock freq, beefed up the PSupply, changed pull-up resistors - no change. However I made the "errors" increase significantly by busying the ARM with 2 calculation-intensive programs. I use Python in RPi, using smbus, SMBUS and
      i2c_LCD_driver and try/except routines in the RPi to catch the bad access and reset the MSP - after that, accesses every 5 seconds continue fine until the next hang, ~1000 accesses later. I use C for the ISRs to manage interrupts in the MSP430.



      I know both devices have hardware state machines that manage the i2c. Given that I can hang the bus by overworking the RPi, my suspicion was/is the implementation of the canned i2c python code. Is anyone aware of any weird
      stuff about the Broadcom Serial Controller (BSC) i2c controller in the ARM that would hang a slave's state machine based on busy-ness of the OS managing the BSC ... or other cases of very intermittent bus hangs ?







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          I am using RPi3B+ stretch 2019apr python 3.5.3.



          I surprisingly and sadly experienced, and read that Rpi3B+ stretch python 3.5x I2C is buggy.



          I could never have slowed down the default I2C 100kHz. I tried to change speed up to 400kHz and down to 50kHz. But hardware did not respond - no nothing changed. :(



          I read that it is a hardware bug. Are you sure you have actually successfully changed the speed? I vaguely remember that I could indeed change the speed when I was in jessie or earlier days.



          I also found that python 3.5.3 block read does not fully implement to entertain all the parameter patterns. My projects were "hung" and much time wasted. :(



          I am anxiously waiting for the coming soon Rpi4 to hopefully resume my couple of long stalled I2C related projects. In the meaning time I am switching to SPI (I2C MCP23017 to SPI MCP23S17, etc)



          Update 2019apr21hkt1156



          I did try smbus2 but sadly encountered other compatibility problems. :(



          References



          Rpi3 I2C Baud Rate Setting - samtal 2018aug04



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            I am using RPi3B+ stretch 2019apr python 3.5.3.



            I surprisingly and sadly experienced, and read that Rpi3B+ stretch python 3.5x I2C is buggy.



            I could never have slowed down the default I2C 100kHz. I tried to change speed up to 400kHz and down to 50kHz. But hardware did not respond - no nothing changed. :(



            I read that it is a hardware bug. Are you sure you have actually successfully changed the speed? I vaguely remember that I could indeed change the speed when I was in jessie or earlier days.



            I also found that python 3.5.3 block read does not fully implement to entertain all the parameter patterns. My projects were "hung" and much time wasted. :(



            I am anxiously waiting for the coming soon Rpi4 to hopefully resume my couple of long stalled I2C related projects. In the meaning time I am switching to SPI (I2C MCP23017 to SPI MCP23S17, etc)



            Update 2019apr21hkt1156



            I did try smbus2 but sadly encountered other compatibility problems. :(



            References



            Rpi3 I2C Baud Rate Setting - samtal 2018aug04



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              I am using RPi3B+ stretch 2019apr python 3.5.3.



              I surprisingly and sadly experienced, and read that Rpi3B+ stretch python 3.5x I2C is buggy.



              I could never have slowed down the default I2C 100kHz. I tried to change speed up to 400kHz and down to 50kHz. But hardware did not respond - no nothing changed. :(



              I read that it is a hardware bug. Are you sure you have actually successfully changed the speed? I vaguely remember that I could indeed change the speed when I was in jessie or earlier days.



              I also found that python 3.5.3 block read does not fully implement to entertain all the parameter patterns. My projects were "hung" and much time wasted. :(



              I am anxiously waiting for the coming soon Rpi4 to hopefully resume my couple of long stalled I2C related projects. In the meaning time I am switching to SPI (I2C MCP23017 to SPI MCP23S17, etc)



              Update 2019apr21hkt1156



              I did try smbus2 but sadly encountered other compatibility problems. :(



              References



              Rpi3 I2C Baud Rate Setting - samtal 2018aug04



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                I am using RPi3B+ stretch 2019apr python 3.5.3.



                I surprisingly and sadly experienced, and read that Rpi3B+ stretch python 3.5x I2C is buggy.



                I could never have slowed down the default I2C 100kHz. I tried to change speed up to 400kHz and down to 50kHz. But hardware did not respond - no nothing changed. :(



                I read that it is a hardware bug. Are you sure you have actually successfully changed the speed? I vaguely remember that I could indeed change the speed when I was in jessie or earlier days.



                I also found that python 3.5.3 block read does not fully implement to entertain all the parameter patterns. My projects were "hung" and much time wasted. :(



                I am anxiously waiting for the coming soon Rpi4 to hopefully resume my couple of long stalled I2C related projects. In the meaning time I am switching to SPI (I2C MCP23017 to SPI MCP23S17, etc)



                Update 2019apr21hkt1156



                I did try smbus2 but sadly encountered other compatibility problems. :(



                References



                Rpi3 I2C Baud Rate Setting - samtal 2018aug04



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                ... I've slowed down the i2c clock freq ...




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                I am using RPi3B+ stretch 2019apr python 3.5.3.



                I surprisingly and sadly experienced, and read that Rpi3B+ stretch python 3.5x I2C is buggy.



                I could never have slowed down the default I2C 100kHz. I tried to change speed up to 400kHz and down to 50kHz. But hardware did not respond - no nothing changed. :(



                I read that it is a hardware bug. Are you sure you have actually successfully changed the speed? I vaguely remember that I could indeed change the speed when I was in jessie or earlier days.



                I also found that python 3.5.3 block read does not fully implement to entertain all the parameter patterns. My projects were "hung" and much time wasted. :(



                I am anxiously waiting for the coming soon Rpi4 to hopefully resume my couple of long stalled I2C related projects. In the meaning time I am switching to SPI (I2C MCP23017 to SPI MCP23S17, etc)



                Update 2019apr21hkt1156



                I did try smbus2 but sadly encountered other compatibility problems. :(



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