My friend is being a hypocriteMarkus' lucky numbersFind two numbers based on either their product or their sum?Number of candiesAbby and Bobby and three numbers on the blackboardHighlighter traces on a sheet of paperWhat kind of puzzle is solved by these sequences of numbers?Five Closely Related PuzzlesIt's my weird friendA line in Connect FourReverse Puzzling 5
Help rendering a complicated sum/product formula
What are substitutions for coconut in curry?
Four married couples attend a party. Each person shakes hands with every other person, except their own spouse, exactly once. How many handshakes?
Error: "inconsistent hash". Workers crash and node is unable to connect to others
Is it correct to say "which country do you like the most?"
Usage and meaning of "up" in "...worth at least a thousand pounds up in London"
Turning a hard to access nut?
In the 1924 version of The Thief of Bagdad, no character is named, right?
How does one measure the Fourier components of a signal?
Print a physical multiplication table
While on vacation my taxi took a longer route, possibly to scam me out of money. How can I deal with this?
How do hiring committees for research positions view getting "scooped"?
TikZ-decoration: control decoration amplitude along curve
Have the tides ever turned twice on any open problem?
What is the plural TO / OF something
T-SQL LIKE Predicate failed to match with whitespace in XML converted varchar
Changing Color of error messages
Can a medieval gyroplane be built?
Why is there so much iron?
What is the term when voters “dishonestly” choose something that they do not want to choose?
What is the relationship between relativity and the Doppler effect?
Can you move over difficult terrain with only 5' of movement?
Is it true that good novels will automatically sell themselves on Amazon (and so on) and there is no need for one to waste time promoting?
Describing a chess game in a novel
My friend is being a hypocrite
Markus' lucky numbersFind two numbers based on either their product or their sum?Number of candiesAbby and Bobby and three numbers on the blackboardHighlighter traces on a sheet of paperWhat kind of puzzle is solved by these sequences of numbers?Five Closely Related PuzzlesIt's my weird friendA line in Connect FourReverse Puzzling 5
$begingroup$
So I was having an argument with a friend and I know I'm right, but she just won't admit it and it's getting really irritating. She thinks this thing goes one way when it clearly actually goes down!
The argument got pretty heated and eventually she decided she was going to prove her point with data, so pointed to some statistics from two papers she'd printed out a while ago. But this was all pointless because BOTH OF THE PAPERS AGREED WITH ME.
You don't know how frustrating this is! I asked if the first paper supported my argument, and she said YES, and I asked if the second paper supported my argument, and she said YES.
So I said either the numbers in the papers are right and therefore I'm right (obviously), or the numbers in the papers are wrong and therefore you shouldn't use them as evidence! And she was like “well...“
I kind of lost track of the argument at this point because I was getting pretty pissed, but I should note that she was trying to show me this thing with dice (she was “improvising” since we had nothing to write with), which she ended up leaving on the table. Supposedly the first paper was researching even numbers and the second paper was researching odd numbers, which doesn't even make sense (what a surprise).
(These are all unrelated examples BTW, she thought more examples would help for some reason.)
Anyway if any of you know how to convince my stubborn friend I'd like to know. She's a statistician and it gets to her head.
mathematics reverse-puzzling
edited 5 hours ago
Rand al'Thor
70.3k14234468
asked 5 hours ago
VeedracVeedrac
857616
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
So I was having an argument with a friend and I know I'm right, but she just won't admit it and it's getting really irritating. She thinks this thing goes one way when it clearly actually goes down!
The argument got pretty heated and eventually she decided she was going to prove her point with data, so pointed to some statistics from two papers she'd printed out a while ago. But this was all pointless because BOTH OF THE PAPERS AGREED WITH ME.
You don't know how frustrating this is! I asked if the first paper supported my argument, and she said YES, and I asked if the second paper supported my argument, and she said YES.
So I said either the numbers in the papers are right and therefore I'm right (obviously), or the numbers in the papers are wrong and therefore you shouldn't use them as evidence! And she was like “well...“
I kind of lost track of the argument at this point because I was getting pretty pissed, but I should note that she was trying to show me this thing with dice (she was “improvising” since we had nothing to write with), which she ended up leaving on the table. Supposedly the first paper was researching even numbers and the second paper was researching odd numbers, which doesn't even make sense (what a surprise).
(These are all unrelated examples BTW, she thought more examples would help for some reason.)
Anyway if any of you know how to convince my stubborn friend I'd like to know. She's a statistician and it gets to her head.
mathematics reverse-puzzling
edited 5 hours ago
Rand al'Thor
70.3k14234468
asked 5 hours ago
VeedracVeedrac
857616
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
So I was having an argument with a friend and I know I'm right, but she just won't admit it and it's getting really irritating. She thinks this thing goes one way when it clearly actually goes down!
The argument got pretty heated and eventually she decided she was going to prove her point with data, so pointed to some statistics from two papers she'd printed out a while ago. But this was all pointless because BOTH OF THE PAPERS AGREED WITH ME.
You don't know how frustrating this is! I asked if the first paper supported my argument, and she said YES, and I asked if the second paper supported my argument, and she said YES.
So I said either the numbers in the papers are right and therefore I'm right (obviously), or the numbers in the papers are wrong and therefore you shouldn't use them as evidence! And she was like “well...“
I kind of lost track of the argument at this point because I was getting pretty pissed, but I should note that she was trying to show me this thing with dice (she was “improvising” since we had nothing to write with), which she ended up leaving on the table. Supposedly the first paper was researching even numbers and the second paper was researching odd numbers, which doesn't even make sense (what a surprise).
(These are all unrelated examples BTW, she thought more examples would help for some reason.)
Anyway if any of you know how to convince my stubborn friend I'd like to know. She's a statistician and it gets to her head.
mathematics reverse-puzzling
edited 5 hours ago
Rand al'Thor
70.3k14234468
asked 5 hours ago
VeedracVeedrac
857616
$endgroup$
So I was having an argument with a friend and I know I'm right, but she just won't admit it and it's getting really irritating. She thinks this thing goes one way when it clearly actually goes down!
The argument got pretty heated and eventually she decided she was going to prove her point with data, so pointed to some statistics from two papers she'd printed out a while ago. But this was all pointless because BOTH OF THE PAPERS AGREED WITH ME.
You don't know how frustrating this is! I asked if the first paper supported my argument, and she said YES, and I asked if the second paper supported my argument, and she said YES.
So I said either the numbers in the papers are right and therefore I'm right (obviously), or the numbers in the papers are wrong and therefore you shouldn't use them as evidence! And she was like “well...“
I kind of lost track of the argument at this point because I was getting pretty pissed, but I should note that she was trying to show me this thing with dice (she was “improvising” since we had nothing to write with), which she ended up leaving on the table. Supposedly the first paper was researching even numbers and the second paper was researching odd numbers, which doesn't even make sense (what a surprise).
(These are all unrelated examples BTW, she thought more examples would help for some reason.)
Anyway if any of you know how to convince my stubborn friend I'd like to know. She's a statistician and it gets to her head.
mathematics reverse-puzzling
mathematics reverse-puzzling
edited 5 hours ago
Rand al'Thor
70.3k14234468
asked 5 hours ago
VeedracVeedrac
857616
edited 5 hours ago
Rand al'Thor
70.3k14234468
asked 5 hours ago
VeedracVeedrac
857616
edited 5 hours ago
Rand al'Thor
70.3k14234468
edited 5 hours ago
Rand al'Thor
70.3k14234468
edited 5 hours ago
Rand al'Thor
70.3k14234468
70.3k14234468
asked 5 hours ago
VeedracVeedrac
857616
asked 5 hours ago
VeedracVeedrac
857616
asked 5 hours ago
VeedracVeedrac
857616
857616
add a comment |
add a comment |
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
The only thing I can think of that you could be arguing about is
Simpson's paradox
Both of the papers can support your argument because
If your argument involves the whole population, then the first paper can have some downward trend in "even" numbers, and the second paper can have some downward trend in "odd" numbers, supporting your argument, but, when combined, the population as a whole can have an upward trend...
The examples you gave are really too broad for me to figure out what exactly you're talking about..
In conclusion
It is you, in fact, who is wrong. When taking the whole population into account your friend would be correct to observe that the trend changes..
answered 1 hour ago
AmorydaiAmorydai
1,345114
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
What would the dice be used for?
$endgroup$
– Veedrac
20 mins ago
add a comment |
Your Answer
StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function ()
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function ()
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix)
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
);
);
, "mathjax-editing");
StackExchange.ready(function()
var channelOptions =
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "559"
;
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);
StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function()
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled)
StackExchange.using("snippets", function()
createEditor();
);
else
createEditor();
);
function createEditor()
StackExchange.prepareEditor(
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: false,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: null,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader:
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
,
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
);
);
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
var $window = $(window),
onScroll = function(e)
var $elem = $('.new-login-left'),
docViewTop = $window.scrollTop(),
docViewBottom = docViewTop + $window.height(),
elemTop = $elem.offset().top,
elemBottom = elemTop + $elem.height();
if ((docViewTop elemBottom))
StackExchange.using('gps', function() StackExchange.gps.track('embedded_signup_form.view', location: 'question_page' ); );
$window.unbind('scroll', onScroll);
;
$window.on('scroll', onScroll);
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function ()
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fpuzzling.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f80753%2fmy-friend-is-being-a-hypocrite%23new-answer', 'question_page');
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
The only thing I can think of that you could be arguing about is
Simpson's paradox
Both of the papers can support your argument because
If your argument involves the whole population, then the first paper can have some downward trend in "even" numbers, and the second paper can have some downward trend in "odd" numbers, supporting your argument, but, when combined, the population as a whole can have an upward trend...
The examples you gave are really too broad for me to figure out what exactly you're talking about..
In conclusion
It is you, in fact, who is wrong. When taking the whole population into account your friend would be correct to observe that the trend changes..
answered 1 hour ago
AmorydaiAmorydai
1,345114
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
What would the dice be used for?
$endgroup$
– Veedrac
20 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The only thing I can think of that you could be arguing about is
Simpson's paradox
Both of the papers can support your argument because
If your argument involves the whole population, then the first paper can have some downward trend in "even" numbers, and the second paper can have some downward trend in "odd" numbers, supporting your argument, but, when combined, the population as a whole can have an upward trend...
The examples you gave are really too broad for me to figure out what exactly you're talking about..
In conclusion
It is you, in fact, who is wrong. When taking the whole population into account your friend would be correct to observe that the trend changes..
answered 1 hour ago
AmorydaiAmorydai
1,345114
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
What would the dice be used for?
$endgroup$
– Veedrac
20 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The only thing I can think of that you could be arguing about is
Simpson's paradox
Both of the papers can support your argument because
If your argument involves the whole population, then the first paper can have some downward trend in "even" numbers, and the second paper can have some downward trend in "odd" numbers, supporting your argument, but, when combined, the population as a whole can have an upward trend...
The examples you gave are really too broad for me to figure out what exactly you're talking about..
In conclusion
It is you, in fact, who is wrong. When taking the whole population into account your friend would be correct to observe that the trend changes..
answered 1 hour ago
AmorydaiAmorydai
1,345114
$endgroup$
The only thing I can think of that you could be arguing about is
Simpson's paradox
Both of the papers can support your argument because
If your argument involves the whole population, then the first paper can have some downward trend in "even" numbers, and the second paper can have some downward trend in "odd" numbers, supporting your argument, but, when combined, the population as a whole can have an upward trend...
The examples you gave are really too broad for me to figure out what exactly you're talking about..
In conclusion
It is you, in fact, who is wrong. When taking the whole population into account your friend would be correct to observe that the trend changes..
answered 1 hour ago
AmorydaiAmorydai
1,345114
answered 1 hour ago
AmorydaiAmorydai
1,345114
answered 1 hour ago
AmorydaiAmorydai
1,345114
answered 1 hour ago
AmorydaiAmorydai
1,345114
1,345114
$begingroup$
What would the dice be used for?
$endgroup$
– Veedrac
20 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
What would the dice be used for?
$endgroup$
– Veedrac
20 mins ago
$begingroup$
What would the dice be used for?
$endgroup$
– Veedrac
20 mins ago
$begingroup$
What would the dice be used for?
$endgroup$
– Veedrac
20 mins ago
add a comment |
Thanks for contributing an answer to Puzzling Stack Exchange!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
var $window = $(window),
onScroll = function(e)
var $elem = $('.new-login-left'),
docViewTop = $window.scrollTop(),
docViewBottom = docViewTop + $window.height(),
elemTop = $elem.offset().top,
elemBottom = elemTop + $elem.height();
if ((docViewTop elemBottom))
StackExchange.using('gps', function() StackExchange.gps.track('embedded_signup_form.view', location: 'question_page' ); );
$window.unbind('scroll', onScroll);
;
$window.on('scroll', onScroll);
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function ()
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fpuzzling.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f80753%2fmy-friend-is-being-a-hypocrite%23new-answer', 'question_page');
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
var $window = $(window),
onScroll = function(e)
var $elem = $('.new-login-left'),
docViewTop = $window.scrollTop(),
docViewBottom = docViewTop + $window.height(),
elemTop = $elem.offset().top,
elemBottom = elemTop + $elem.height();
if ((docViewTop elemBottom))
StackExchange.using('gps', function() StackExchange.gps.track('embedded_signup_form.view', location: 'question_page' ); );
$window.unbind('scroll', onScroll);
;
$window.on('scroll', onScroll);
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
var $window = $(window),
onScroll = function(e)
var $elem = $('.new-login-left'),
docViewTop = $window.scrollTop(),
docViewBottom = docViewTop + $window.height(),
elemTop = $elem.offset().top,
elemBottom = elemTop + $elem.height();
if ((docViewTop elemBottom))
StackExchange.using('gps', function() StackExchange.gps.track('embedded_signup_form.view', location: 'question_page' ); );
$window.unbind('scroll', onScroll);
;
$window.on('scroll', onScroll);
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
var $window = $(window),
onScroll = function(e)
var $elem = $('.new-login-left'),
docViewTop = $window.scrollTop(),
docViewBottom = docViewTop + $window.height(),
elemTop = $elem.offset().top,
elemBottom = elemTop + $elem.height();
if ((docViewTop elemBottom))
StackExchange.using('gps', function() StackExchange.gps.track('embedded_signup_form.view', location: 'question_page' ); );
$window.unbind('scroll', onScroll);
;
$window.on('scroll', onScroll);
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
