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Usage and meaning of “up” in “…worth at least a thousand pounds up in London”
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Two chairs like that must be worth at least a thousand pounds up in London.
I don't know what the 'up' mean in the sentence. I'm even not sure which words — perhaps either 'a thousand pounds' or 'in London' — are modified by it.
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Two chairs like that must be worth at least a thousand pounds up in London.
I don't know what the 'up' mean in the sentence. I'm even not sure which words — perhaps either 'a thousand pounds' or 'in London' — are modified by it.
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It is ambiguous. On first reading I thought it was saying "a thousand pounds up" -- that is to say "over a thousand pounds". But that interpretation clashes with the use of "at least" to modify the price. It's poorly worded.
– Hot Licks
3 hours ago
I agree with @HotLicks: either "at least" or "up" is superfluous: "... worth at least a thousand pounds" or "worth a thousand pounds up(wards)".
– TrevorD
2 hours ago
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@TrevorD - But my point was that, on second reading, you see that it's "up in London". The old "garden path".
– Hot Licks
2 hours ago
@HotLicks Sorry, I didn't even see that meaning - but I now agree it's ambiguous.
– TrevorD
1 hour ago
@TrevorD - Getting it right is probably actually harder for someone coming in and reading an extracted sentence than reading the stuff in a book, since your eyes aren't flowing with the text, and so they tend to "jump ahead" to the phrase without first absorbing the lead-in verbiage.
– Hot Licks
1 hour ago
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Two chairs like that must be worth at least a thousand pounds up in London.
I don't know what the 'up' mean in the sentence. I'm even not sure which words — perhaps either 'a thousand pounds' or 'in London' — are modified by it.
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Two chairs like that must be worth at least a thousand pounds up in London.
I don't know what the 'up' mean in the sentence. I'm even not sure which words — perhaps either 'a thousand pounds' or 'in London' — are modified by it.
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It is ambiguous. On first reading I thought it was saying "a thousand pounds up" -- that is to say "over a thousand pounds". But that interpretation clashes with the use of "at least" to modify the price. It's poorly worded.
– Hot Licks
3 hours ago
I agree with @HotLicks: either "at least" or "up" is superfluous: "... worth at least a thousand pounds" or "worth a thousand pounds up(wards)".
– TrevorD
2 hours ago
1
@TrevorD - But my point was that, on second reading, you see that it's "up in London". The old "garden path".
– Hot Licks
2 hours ago
@HotLicks Sorry, I didn't even see that meaning - but I now agree it's ambiguous.
– TrevorD
1 hour ago
@TrevorD - Getting it right is probably actually harder for someone coming in and reading an extracted sentence than reading the stuff in a book, since your eyes aren't flowing with the text, and so they tend to "jump ahead" to the phrase without first absorbing the lead-in verbiage.
– Hot Licks
1 hour ago
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It is ambiguous. On first reading I thought it was saying "a thousand pounds up" -- that is to say "over a thousand pounds". But that interpretation clashes with the use of "at least" to modify the price. It's poorly worded.
– Hot Licks
3 hours ago
I agree with @HotLicks: either "at least" or "up" is superfluous: "... worth at least a thousand pounds" or "worth a thousand pounds up(wards)".
– TrevorD
2 hours ago
1
@TrevorD - But my point was that, on second reading, you see that it's "up in London". The old "garden path".
– Hot Licks
2 hours ago
@HotLicks Sorry, I didn't even see that meaning - but I now agree it's ambiguous.
– TrevorD
1 hour ago
@TrevorD - Getting it right is probably actually harder for someone coming in and reading an extracted sentence than reading the stuff in a book, since your eyes aren't flowing with the text, and so they tend to "jump ahead" to the phrase without first absorbing the lead-in verbiage.
– Hot Licks
1 hour ago
It is ambiguous. On first reading I thought it was saying "a thousand pounds up" -- that is to say "over a thousand pounds". But that interpretation clashes with the use of "at least" to modify the price. It's poorly worded.
– Hot Licks
3 hours ago
It is ambiguous. On first reading I thought it was saying "a thousand pounds up" -- that is to say "over a thousand pounds". But that interpretation clashes with the use of "at least" to modify the price. It's poorly worded.
– Hot Licks
3 hours ago
I agree with @HotLicks: either "at least" or "up" is superfluous: "... worth at least a thousand pounds" or "worth a thousand pounds up(wards)".
– TrevorD
2 hours ago
I agree with @HotLicks: either "at least" or "up" is superfluous: "... worth at least a thousand pounds" or "worth a thousand pounds up(wards)".
– TrevorD
2 hours ago
1
1
@TrevorD - But my point was that, on second reading, you see that it's "up in London". The old "garden path".
– Hot Licks
2 hours ago
@TrevorD - But my point was that, on second reading, you see that it's "up in London". The old "garden path".
– Hot Licks
2 hours ago
@HotLicks Sorry, I didn't even see that meaning - but I now agree it's ambiguous.
– TrevorD
1 hour ago
@HotLicks Sorry, I didn't even see that meaning - but I now agree it's ambiguous.
– TrevorD
1 hour ago
@TrevorD - Getting it right is probably actually harder for someone coming in and reading an extracted sentence than reading the stuff in a book, since your eyes aren't flowing with the text, and so they tend to "jump ahead" to the phrase without first absorbing the lead-in verbiage.
– Hot Licks
1 hour ago
@TrevorD - Getting it right is probably actually harder for someone coming in and reading an extracted sentence than reading the stuff in a book, since your eyes aren't flowing with the text, and so they tend to "jump ahead" to the phrase without first absorbing the lead-in verbiage.
– Hot Licks
1 hour ago
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"Up" and "down" have meanings that refer to towns, cities, and other possible destinations.
Compare this meaning and example sentence for "up" in the Oxford Learners' Dictionary:
(adverb) 1. towards or in a higher position
They live up in the mountains.
The mountains are in a higher position. It'd be possible to just say "they live in the mountains," but the "up" gives an idea of relative position - they live up in the mountains compared to where the speaker is talking. (The valley? The plains? Anywhere else lower?)
What gets tricky is what precisely "higher position" is referring to. Is it elevation? Latitude? Political or economic prestige? For the last value (prestige) there is a specific meaning for "up":
(adverb) 4. to or at an important place, especially a large city
We're going up to New York for the day.
New York is down in elevation and latitude from Rochester, but someone from Rochester may well go "up to New York."
This adverb up commonly comes before prepositions like "up to," "up in," and "up at." "Down" has a contrasting meaning, and different locales or individuals may have their own idea of whether a city qualifies as "up" or "down" relative to them. (One can use both "down in London" and "up in London.")
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Can "up" also mean northwards?
– stannius
4 hours ago
@stannius Couldn't say anything about formal use, but it certainly can in casual use. I've (in the US) seen "up in Canada" used pretty frequently.
– Hearth
3 hours ago
@Hearth - That's because people go to Canada to get high.
– Hot Licks
3 hours ago
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"Up" and "down" have meanings that refer to towns, cities, and other possible destinations.
Compare this meaning and example sentence for "up" in the Oxford Learners' Dictionary:
(adverb) 1. towards or in a higher position
They live up in the mountains.
The mountains are in a higher position. It'd be possible to just say "they live in the mountains," but the "up" gives an idea of relative position - they live up in the mountains compared to where the speaker is talking. (The valley? The plains? Anywhere else lower?)
What gets tricky is what precisely "higher position" is referring to. Is it elevation? Latitude? Political or economic prestige? For the last value (prestige) there is a specific meaning for "up":
(adverb) 4. to or at an important place, especially a large city
We're going up to New York for the day.
New York is down in elevation and latitude from Rochester, but someone from Rochester may well go "up to New York."
This adverb up commonly comes before prepositions like "up to," "up in," and "up at." "Down" has a contrasting meaning, and different locales or individuals may have their own idea of whether a city qualifies as "up" or "down" relative to them. (One can use both "down in London" and "up in London.")
answered 6 hours ago
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Can "up" also mean northwards?
– stannius
4 hours ago
@stannius Couldn't say anything about formal use, but it certainly can in casual use. I've (in the US) seen "up in Canada" used pretty frequently.
– Hearth
3 hours ago
@Hearth - That's because people go to Canada to get high.
– Hot Licks
3 hours ago
add a comment |
"Up" and "down" have meanings that refer to towns, cities, and other possible destinations.
Compare this meaning and example sentence for "up" in the Oxford Learners' Dictionary:
(adverb) 1. towards or in a higher position
They live up in the mountains.
The mountains are in a higher position. It'd be possible to just say "they live in the mountains," but the "up" gives an idea of relative position - they live up in the mountains compared to where the speaker is talking. (The valley? The plains? Anywhere else lower?)
What gets tricky is what precisely "higher position" is referring to. Is it elevation? Latitude? Political or economic prestige? For the last value (prestige) there is a specific meaning for "up":
(adverb) 4. to or at an important place, especially a large city
We're going up to New York for the day.
New York is down in elevation and latitude from Rochester, but someone from Rochester may well go "up to New York."
This adverb up commonly comes before prepositions like "up to," "up in," and "up at." "Down" has a contrasting meaning, and different locales or individuals may have their own idea of whether a city qualifies as "up" or "down" relative to them. (One can use both "down in London" and "up in London.")
answered 6 hours ago
TaliesinMerlinTaliesinMerlin
5,5921127
1
Can "up" also mean northwards?
– stannius
4 hours ago
@stannius Couldn't say anything about formal use, but it certainly can in casual use. I've (in the US) seen "up in Canada" used pretty frequently.
– Hearth
3 hours ago
@Hearth - That's because people go to Canada to get high.
– Hot Licks
3 hours ago
add a comment |
"Up" and "down" have meanings that refer to towns, cities, and other possible destinations.
Compare this meaning and example sentence for "up" in the Oxford Learners' Dictionary:
(adverb) 1. towards or in a higher position
They live up in the mountains.
The mountains are in a higher position. It'd be possible to just say "they live in the mountains," but the "up" gives an idea of relative position - they live up in the mountains compared to where the speaker is talking. (The valley? The plains? Anywhere else lower?)
What gets tricky is what precisely "higher position" is referring to. Is it elevation? Latitude? Political or economic prestige? For the last value (prestige) there is a specific meaning for "up":
(adverb) 4. to or at an important place, especially a large city
We're going up to New York for the day.
New York is down in elevation and latitude from Rochester, but someone from Rochester may well go "up to New York."
This adverb up commonly comes before prepositions like "up to," "up in," and "up at." "Down" has a contrasting meaning, and different locales or individuals may have their own idea of whether a city qualifies as "up" or "down" relative to them. (One can use both "down in London" and "up in London.")
answered 6 hours ago
TaliesinMerlinTaliesinMerlin
5,5921127
"Up" and "down" have meanings that refer to towns, cities, and other possible destinations.
Compare this meaning and example sentence for "up" in the Oxford Learners' Dictionary:
(adverb) 1. towards or in a higher position
They live up in the mountains.
The mountains are in a higher position. It'd be possible to just say "they live in the mountains," but the "up" gives an idea of relative position - they live up in the mountains compared to where the speaker is talking. (The valley? The plains? Anywhere else lower?)
What gets tricky is what precisely "higher position" is referring to. Is it elevation? Latitude? Political or economic prestige? For the last value (prestige) there is a specific meaning for "up":
(adverb) 4. to or at an important place, especially a large city
We're going up to New York for the day.
New York is down in elevation and latitude from Rochester, but someone from Rochester may well go "up to New York."
This adverb up commonly comes before prepositions like "up to," "up in," and "up at." "Down" has a contrasting meaning, and different locales or individuals may have their own idea of whether a city qualifies as "up" or "down" relative to them. (One can use both "down in London" and "up in London.")
answered 6 hours ago
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answered 6 hours ago
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answered 6 hours ago
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Can "up" also mean northwards?
– stannius
4 hours ago
@stannius Couldn't say anything about formal use, but it certainly can in casual use. I've (in the US) seen "up in Canada" used pretty frequently.
– Hearth
3 hours ago
@Hearth - That's because people go to Canada to get high.
– Hot Licks
3 hours ago
add a comment |
1
Can "up" also mean northwards?
– stannius
4 hours ago
@stannius Couldn't say anything about formal use, but it certainly can in casual use. I've (in the US) seen "up in Canada" used pretty frequently.
– Hearth
3 hours ago
@Hearth - That's because people go to Canada to get high.
– Hot Licks
3 hours ago
1
1
Can "up" also mean northwards?
– stannius
4 hours ago
Can "up" also mean northwards?
– stannius
4 hours ago
@stannius Couldn't say anything about formal use, but it certainly can in casual use. I've (in the US) seen "up in Canada" used pretty frequently.
– Hearth
3 hours ago
@stannius Couldn't say anything about formal use, but it certainly can in casual use. I've (in the US) seen "up in Canada" used pretty frequently.
– Hearth
3 hours ago
@Hearth - That's because people go to Canada to get high.
– Hot Licks
3 hours ago
@Hearth - That's because people go to Canada to get high.
– Hot Licks
3 hours ago
add a comment |
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It is ambiguous. On first reading I thought it was saying "a thousand pounds up" -- that is to say "over a thousand pounds". But that interpretation clashes with the use of "at least" to modify the price. It's poorly worded.
– Hot Licks
3 hours ago
I agree with @HotLicks: either "at least" or "up" is superfluous: "... worth at least a thousand pounds" or "worth a thousand pounds up(wards)".
– TrevorD
2 hours ago
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@TrevorD - But my point was that, on second reading, you see that it's "up in London". The old "garden path".
– Hot Licks
2 hours ago
@HotLicks Sorry, I didn't even see that meaning - but I now agree it's ambiguous.
– TrevorD
1 hour ago
@TrevorD - Getting it right is probably actually harder for someone coming in and reading an extracted sentence than reading the stuff in a book, since your eyes aren't flowing with the text, and so they tend to "jump ahead" to the phrase without first absorbing the lead-in verbiage.
– Hot Licks
1 hour ago