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A non-linear recurrence relation in two variables
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I'm interested in solving a particular non-linear recurrence in two variables:
$$lambda_j,k = (j+k) lambda_j,k-1 + beginpmatrix j+k \ 2 endpmatrix lambda_j-1, k-1.$$
Here $j geq -1$ and $k geq 0$, and we have initial conditions:
$lambda_-1,k = 0$ for all $k$;
$lambda_j,0 = 0$ for all $j>0$;
$lambda_0,0 = 1$.
This is a relation between the leading coefficients of certain polynomials occurring in a problem in modular invariant theory. $lambda_-1,k$ doesn't really make sense in context, but introducing it simplifies the relation and initial conditions nicely. Because of the context, I happen to know that for any prime $p$, $lambda_j,k neq 0$ mod $p$ unless $j+k geq p$. This suggests to me that there is a particularly simple solution, possibly a product of binomial coefficients.
Some starting points: Obviously $lambda_0,k = k!$ and it's easy to show that $lambda_j,k = 0$ if $j>k$ and $lambda_k,k = frac(2k)!2^k$ for $k geq 0$. I've tried solving it with generating functions in two variables, but that just produces a truly terrifying PDE of order 2 and degree 4.
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I'm interested in solving a particular non-linear recurrence in two variables:
$$lambda_j,k = (j+k) lambda_j,k-1 + beginpmatrix j+k \ 2 endpmatrix lambda_j-1, k-1.$$
Here $j geq -1$ and $k geq 0$, and we have initial conditions:
$lambda_-1,k = 0$ for all $k$;
$lambda_j,0 = 0$ for all $j>0$;
$lambda_0,0 = 1$.
This is a relation between the leading coefficients of certain polynomials occurring in a problem in modular invariant theory. $lambda_-1,k$ doesn't really make sense in context, but introducing it simplifies the relation and initial conditions nicely. Because of the context, I happen to know that for any prime $p$, $lambda_j,k neq 0$ mod $p$ unless $j+k geq p$. This suggests to me that there is a particularly simple solution, possibly a product of binomial coefficients.
Some starting points: Obviously $lambda_0,k = k!$ and it's easy to show that $lambda_j,k = 0$ if $j>k$ and $lambda_k,k = frac(2k)!2^k$ for $k geq 0$. I've tried solving it with generating functions in two variables, but that just produces a truly terrifying PDE of order 2 and degree 4.
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Great answer @Fedor Petrov, thanks a lot!
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I'm interested in solving a particular non-linear recurrence in two variables:
$$lambda_j,k = (j+k) lambda_j,k-1 + beginpmatrix j+k \ 2 endpmatrix lambda_j-1, k-1.$$
Here $j geq -1$ and $k geq 0$, and we have initial conditions:
$lambda_-1,k = 0$ for all $k$;
$lambda_j,0 = 0$ for all $j>0$;
$lambda_0,0 = 1$.
This is a relation between the leading coefficients of certain polynomials occurring in a problem in modular invariant theory. $lambda_-1,k$ doesn't really make sense in context, but introducing it simplifies the relation and initial conditions nicely. Because of the context, I happen to know that for any prime $p$, $lambda_j,k neq 0$ mod $p$ unless $j+k geq p$. This suggests to me that there is a particularly simple solution, possibly a product of binomial coefficients.
Some starting points: Obviously $lambda_0,k = k!$ and it's easy to show that $lambda_j,k = 0$ if $j>k$ and $lambda_k,k = frac(2k)!2^k$ for $k geq 0$. I've tried solving it with generating functions in two variables, but that just produces a truly terrifying PDE of order 2 and degree 4.
co.combinatorics
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I'm interested in solving a particular non-linear recurrence in two variables:
$$lambda_j,k = (j+k) lambda_j,k-1 + beginpmatrix j+k \ 2 endpmatrix lambda_j-1, k-1.$$
Here $j geq -1$ and $k geq 0$, and we have initial conditions:
$lambda_-1,k = 0$ for all $k$;
$lambda_j,0 = 0$ for all $j>0$;
$lambda_0,0 = 1$.
This is a relation between the leading coefficients of certain polynomials occurring in a problem in modular invariant theory. $lambda_-1,k$ doesn't really make sense in context, but introducing it simplifies the relation and initial conditions nicely. Because of the context, I happen to know that for any prime $p$, $lambda_j,k neq 0$ mod $p$ unless $j+k geq p$. This suggests to me that there is a particularly simple solution, possibly a product of binomial coefficients.
Some starting points: Obviously $lambda_0,k = k!$ and it's easy to show that $lambda_j,k = 0$ if $j>k$ and $lambda_k,k = frac(2k)!2^k$ for $k geq 0$. I've tried solving it with generating functions in two variables, but that just produces a truly terrifying PDE of order 2 and degree 4.
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Great answer @Fedor Petrov, thanks a lot!
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Great answer @Fedor Petrov, thanks a lot!
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Great answer @Fedor Petrov, thanks a lot!
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Denote $lambda_j,k=(j+k)! a_j,k$ (unless $j=-1,k=0$). Then we get $a_j,k=a_j,k-1+a_j-1,k-1/2$. Further denoting $a_j,k=2^-jb_j,k$ we get $b_j,k=b_j,k-1+b_j-1,k-1$ that looks like a Pascal triangle recurrence. So $b_j,k=binomkj$ (check the initial conditions also) and $lambda_j,k=2^-j(j+k)!binomkj$.
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Denote $lambda_j,k=(j+k)! a_j,k$ (unless $j=-1,k=0$). Then we get $a_j,k=a_j,k-1+a_j-1,k-1/2$. Further denoting $a_j,k=2^-jb_j,k$ we get $b_j,k=b_j,k-1+b_j-1,k-1$ that looks like a Pascal triangle recurrence. So $b_j,k=binomkj$ (check the initial conditions also) and $lambda_j,k=2^-j(j+k)!binomkj$.
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Denote $lambda_j,k=(j+k)! a_j,k$ (unless $j=-1,k=0$). Then we get $a_j,k=a_j,k-1+a_j-1,k-1/2$. Further denoting $a_j,k=2^-jb_j,k$ we get $b_j,k=b_j,k-1+b_j-1,k-1$ that looks like a Pascal triangle recurrence. So $b_j,k=binomkj$ (check the initial conditions also) and $lambda_j,k=2^-j(j+k)!binomkj$.
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Denote $lambda_j,k=(j+k)! a_j,k$ (unless $j=-1,k=0$). Then we get $a_j,k=a_j,k-1+a_j-1,k-1/2$. Further denoting $a_j,k=2^-jb_j,k$ we get $b_j,k=b_j,k-1+b_j-1,k-1$ that looks like a Pascal triangle recurrence. So $b_j,k=binomkj$ (check the initial conditions also) and $lambda_j,k=2^-j(j+k)!binomkj$.
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Denote $lambda_j,k=(j+k)! a_j,k$ (unless $j=-1,k=0$). Then we get $a_j,k=a_j,k-1+a_j-1,k-1/2$. Further denoting $a_j,k=2^-jb_j,k$ we get $b_j,k=b_j,k-1+b_j-1,k-1$ that looks like a Pascal triangle recurrence. So $b_j,k=binomkj$ (check the initial conditions also) and $lambda_j,k=2^-j(j+k)!binomkj$.
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