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Can one Knight really make another one a Knight?



Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
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Favourite questions and answers from the 1st quarter of 2019Why did Cersei Lannister start a physical relationship with her brother Jaime?Why doesn't Bran and company immediately leave the weirwood tree?Why did nobody know about the wildfire?Why is Samwell Tarly allowed to be maester even after joining night watch?What does the Night King really want?How was the Night King able to see and touch Bran Stark?Is this thing a wight or a White Walker?What makes the Night King different from other white walkers?Did the return of dragons in the world trigger the Night King to start taking action?Why are none of the Dragons attacking the Night King in S07E06










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In Game of Thrones S08E02, Jaime said,




“You don’t need a king. Any knight can make another knight".




But is it right in the context of Game of Thrones? Is it legal to make anyone else night by a knight himself? Is it analogous to the real world?









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In Game of Thrones S08E02, Jaime said,




“You don’t need a king. Any knight can make another knight".




But is it right in the context of Game of Thrones? Is it legal to make anyone else night by a knight himself? Is it analogous to the real world?









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  • For historical context from books, Cross-site Related/dupes: What are benefits of knighthood?, Knighthood requirements, How to make knighthood stick?

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In Game of Thrones S08E02, Jaime said,




“You don’t need a king. Any knight can make another knight".




But is it right in the context of Game of Thrones? Is it legal to make anyone else night by a knight himself? Is it analogous to the real world?









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In Game of Thrones S08E02, Jaime said,




“You don’t need a king. Any knight can make another knight".




But is it right in the context of Game of Thrones? Is it legal to make anyone else night by a knight himself? Is it analogous to the real world?







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  • For historical context from books, Cross-site Related/dupes: What are benefits of knighthood?, Knighthood requirements, How to make knighthood stick?

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For historical context from books, Cross-site Related/dupes: What are benefits of knighthood?, Knighthood requirements, How to make knighthood stick?

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Yes. In the shows this is the first time we've known rules about a knighthood been stated, so there's no other claim to compare it to. But, lucky for us, GRRM has stated it's either a knight or a King, but not a lord unless he's a Knight himself:




To settle an old debate on EZBoard, any king can make a knight but any lord cannot. That lord must be a knight as well. So Baelor I could make knights but Eddard could not. George said the more important thing for kings is making lords. The problem is giving lands.




In the books there is one notable example (spoiler alert, as this does not happen in the show):




Berric Dondarion knights Gendry




For the final part of your question: in real life there have been many types of knighthoods, some military, some just a title, some hereditary, ... . So there is not a fixed ruleset on becoming a knight. I'm not sure if GRRM based his knights on some real order, but it seems more likely he invented his own order for Westerosi knights and his rules are all that matter.






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    Yes. In the shows this is the first time we've known rules about a knighthood been stated, so there's no other claim to compare it to. But, lucky for us, GRRM has stated it's either a knight or a King, but not a lord unless he's a Knight himself:




    To settle an old debate on EZBoard, any king can make a knight but any lord cannot. That lord must be a knight as well. So Baelor I could make knights but Eddard could not. George said the more important thing for kings is making lords. The problem is giving lands.




    In the books there is one notable example (spoiler alert, as this does not happen in the show):




    Berric Dondarion knights Gendry




    For the final part of your question: in real life there have been many types of knighthoods, some military, some just a title, some hereditary, ... . So there is not a fixed ruleset on becoming a knight. I'm not sure if GRRM based his knights on some real order, but it seems more likely he invented his own order for Westerosi knights and his rules are all that matter.






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      Yes. In the shows this is the first time we've known rules about a knighthood been stated, so there's no other claim to compare it to. But, lucky for us, GRRM has stated it's either a knight or a King, but not a lord unless he's a Knight himself:




      To settle an old debate on EZBoard, any king can make a knight but any lord cannot. That lord must be a knight as well. So Baelor I could make knights but Eddard could not. George said the more important thing for kings is making lords. The problem is giving lands.




      In the books there is one notable example (spoiler alert, as this does not happen in the show):




      Berric Dondarion knights Gendry




      For the final part of your question: in real life there have been many types of knighthoods, some military, some just a title, some hereditary, ... . So there is not a fixed ruleset on becoming a knight. I'm not sure if GRRM based his knights on some real order, but it seems more likely he invented his own order for Westerosi knights and his rules are all that matter.






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        Yes. In the shows this is the first time we've known rules about a knighthood been stated, so there's no other claim to compare it to. But, lucky for us, GRRM has stated it's either a knight or a King, but not a lord unless he's a Knight himself:




        To settle an old debate on EZBoard, any king can make a knight but any lord cannot. That lord must be a knight as well. So Baelor I could make knights but Eddard could not. George said the more important thing for kings is making lords. The problem is giving lands.




        In the books there is one notable example (spoiler alert, as this does not happen in the show):




        Berric Dondarion knights Gendry




        For the final part of your question: in real life there have been many types of knighthoods, some military, some just a title, some hereditary, ... . So there is not a fixed ruleset on becoming a knight. I'm not sure if GRRM based his knights on some real order, but it seems more likely he invented his own order for Westerosi knights and his rules are all that matter.






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        Yes. In the shows this is the first time we've known rules about a knighthood been stated, so there's no other claim to compare it to. But, lucky for us, GRRM has stated it's either a knight or a King, but not a lord unless he's a Knight himself:




        To settle an old debate on EZBoard, any king can make a knight but any lord cannot. That lord must be a knight as well. So Baelor I could make knights but Eddard could not. George said the more important thing for kings is making lords. The problem is giving lands.




        In the books there is one notable example (spoiler alert, as this does not happen in the show):




        Berric Dondarion knights Gendry




        For the final part of your question: in real life there have been many types of knighthoods, some military, some just a title, some hereditary, ... . So there is not a fixed ruleset on becoming a knight. I'm not sure if GRRM based his knights on some real order, but it seems more likely he invented his own order for Westerosi knights and his rules are all that matter.







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