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Is my guitar action too high?
Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 23, 2019 at 23:30 UTC (7:30pm US/Eastern)Learning guitar, start at low end or high end?Strings too stiff on a recently purchased acoustic guitar | Cort AD880CEIs the action of my guitar really high?Μy little finger is too weak to play guitarElectric guitar doesn't keep tuning on the first frets. Anything I can do about it?With guitar, how long should I give my fingers to strengthen / callous?Beginner difficulty in barre on higher frets on guitarWhen playing a fret the guitar sounds mutedI think my guitar strings are wound too tight and I can't play barre chordsHigh action on higher fret on my steel acoustic guitar
this is the first fret of the guitar
i have trouble playing bar chords and when I play open chords my fingers get sore easily.
I have friends that play guitar and they said that it's hard to press.
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this is the first fret of the guitar
i have trouble playing bar chords and when I play open chords my fingers get sore easily.
I have friends that play guitar and they said that it's hard to press.
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i'd like to see another pic of more of the neck, because that is starting out at one heck of an angle; so either the neck is bent way out of true, or the action at the 12th fret is about half an inch:
– Tetsujin
1 hour ago
If you press a string down onto both the first and highest fret, how much distance is there between the string and the frets halfway up the neck?
– Your Uncle Bob
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this is the first fret of the guitar
i have trouble playing bar chords and when I play open chords my fingers get sore easily.
I have friends that play guitar and they said that it's hard to press.
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this is the first fret of the guitar
i have trouble playing bar chords and when I play open chords my fingers get sore easily.
I have friends that play guitar and they said that it's hard to press.
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i'd like to see another pic of more of the neck, because that is starting out at one heck of an angle; so either the neck is bent way out of true, or the action at the 12th fret is about half an inch:
– Tetsujin
1 hour ago
If you press a string down onto both the first and highest fret, how much distance is there between the string and the frets halfway up the neck?
– Your Uncle Bob
20 mins ago
add a comment |
2
i'd like to see another pic of more of the neck, because that is starting out at one heck of an angle; so either the neck is bent way out of true, or the action at the 12th fret is about half an inch:
– Tetsujin
1 hour ago
If you press a string down onto both the first and highest fret, how much distance is there between the string and the frets halfway up the neck?
– Your Uncle Bob
20 mins ago
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i'd like to see another pic of more of the neck, because that is starting out at one heck of an angle; so either the neck is bent way out of true, or the action at the 12th fret is about half an inch:
– Tetsujin
1 hour ago
i'd like to see another pic of more of the neck, because that is starting out at one heck of an angle; so either the neck is bent way out of true, or the action at the 12th fret is about half an inch:
– Tetsujin
1 hour ago
If you press a string down onto both the first and highest fret, how much distance is there between the string and the frets halfway up the neck?
– Your Uncle Bob
20 mins ago
If you press a string down onto both the first and highest fret, how much distance is there between the string and the frets halfway up the neck?
– Your Uncle Bob
20 mins ago
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I'm porting this to the answer space just to have somewhere to hang the photo...
It doesn't really constitute an answer, though it could become one once we have more info.
I'd like to see another pic of more of the neck, because that is starting out at one heck of an angle; so either the neck is bent way out of true, or the action at the 12th fret is about half an inch:
Quick snap of one of my 6-strings & the bass it just happened to be leaning against, showing a much 'flatter' slope to the action as it progresses up the neck.
Should I offer prizes for the first person to correctly identify both? ;)
As noted elsewhere - the issue could be the neck relief [ie, the amount of curve it has in it] or it could be the overall action at the bridge is set too high... or indeed a little of both.
I'd be hesitant to cut the nut any further, it already looks slightly deeper than optimum to me.
answered 1 hour ago
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It does look high. This could be due to a couple of factors.
The neck may be bent. All guitar necks have a slight bend in them - it's called relief - to stop the strings buzzing on any frets. But too much relief will give your symptoms, and is remedied in part by tightening the trussrod. Not recommended to be done by the inexperienced.
The action may simply be high due to the saddles/bridge being too high. On a lot of guitars, the bridge has a couple of adjusting screws that lower and raise the whole bridge. Others have individual saddles which are adjustable for each string's height. Some have a bridge that cannot be altered except by shaving some off it.
Without a view of the whole of the neck, it's difficult to say more, but lower guage strings often help, as they are not under so much tension, thus being easier to fret. Last resort would be deepen the nut slots, but not particularly recommended.
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Only you can determine if the string action is too high. Lowering the action can give problems with string buzz, and especially if you are striking the strings hard. But give it a go to lower the action. The guitar gets easier to play with lower action.
Another thing you could try is to just change to thinner strings. Thicker strings gives more tuning stability and a slightly heavier sound, but they also makes it harder to play.
But yeah, from the picture I'd say that the action is VERY high. You probably should make the groves in the nut deeper.
answered 1 hour ago
BromanBroman
48513
What is it about thinner strings and tuning stability? I use .008s and have no problems.
– Tim
1 hour ago
@Tim The lower the tension, the less stable the tuning is. If you play really hard, thin strings may become a problem. If you want to investigate this effect, try to tune a string down a fifth or so and see how easy it is to bend. You will bend the note by just pressing it to hard against the fretboard.
– Broman
1 hour ago
In best part of 50 yrs with such strings, and a very good action on all my guitars, I suppose I've learnt not to press harder than necessary, and my playing is in tune. So, it's not the tuning that's out in your statement, it's more the propensity for a player to play it out of tune.
– Tim
1 hour ago
Yes you are right. It's not so much about the guitar going out of tune, but more that it effects your ability to play in tune.
– Broman
1 hour ago
1
@Tim It's simple physics. The formula is f=sqrt(T/d)/2L where f is the frequency, T is the tension, d is the linear density and L is the length of the string. With higher linear density is, a certain change in tension will have less effect on the frequency.
– Broman
1 hour ago
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I'm porting this to the answer space just to have somewhere to hang the photo...
It doesn't really constitute an answer, though it could become one once we have more info.
I'd like to see another pic of more of the neck, because that is starting out at one heck of an angle; so either the neck is bent way out of true, or the action at the 12th fret is about half an inch:
Quick snap of one of my 6-strings & the bass it just happened to be leaning against, showing a much 'flatter' slope to the action as it progresses up the neck.
Should I offer prizes for the first person to correctly identify both? ;)
As noted elsewhere - the issue could be the neck relief [ie, the amount of curve it has in it] or it could be the overall action at the bridge is set too high... or indeed a little of both.
I'd be hesitant to cut the nut any further, it already looks slightly deeper than optimum to me.
answered 1 hour ago
TetsujinTetsujin
8,38821935
add a comment |
I'm porting this to the answer space just to have somewhere to hang the photo...
It doesn't really constitute an answer, though it could become one once we have more info.
I'd like to see another pic of more of the neck, because that is starting out at one heck of an angle; so either the neck is bent way out of true, or the action at the 12th fret is about half an inch:
Quick snap of one of my 6-strings & the bass it just happened to be leaning against, showing a much 'flatter' slope to the action as it progresses up the neck.
Should I offer prizes for the first person to correctly identify both? ;)
As noted elsewhere - the issue could be the neck relief [ie, the amount of curve it has in it] or it could be the overall action at the bridge is set too high... or indeed a little of both.
I'd be hesitant to cut the nut any further, it already looks slightly deeper than optimum to me.
answered 1 hour ago
TetsujinTetsujin
8,38821935
add a comment |
I'm porting this to the answer space just to have somewhere to hang the photo...
It doesn't really constitute an answer, though it could become one once we have more info.
I'd like to see another pic of more of the neck, because that is starting out at one heck of an angle; so either the neck is bent way out of true, or the action at the 12th fret is about half an inch:
Quick snap of one of my 6-strings & the bass it just happened to be leaning against, showing a much 'flatter' slope to the action as it progresses up the neck.
Should I offer prizes for the first person to correctly identify both? ;)
As noted elsewhere - the issue could be the neck relief [ie, the amount of curve it has in it] or it could be the overall action at the bridge is set too high... or indeed a little of both.
I'd be hesitant to cut the nut any further, it already looks slightly deeper than optimum to me.
answered 1 hour ago
TetsujinTetsujin
8,38821935
I'm porting this to the answer space just to have somewhere to hang the photo...
It doesn't really constitute an answer, though it could become one once we have more info.
I'd like to see another pic of more of the neck, because that is starting out at one heck of an angle; so either the neck is bent way out of true, or the action at the 12th fret is about half an inch:
Quick snap of one of my 6-strings & the bass it just happened to be leaning against, showing a much 'flatter' slope to the action as it progresses up the neck.
Should I offer prizes for the first person to correctly identify both? ;)
As noted elsewhere - the issue could be the neck relief [ie, the amount of curve it has in it] or it could be the overall action at the bridge is set too high... or indeed a little of both.
I'd be hesitant to cut the nut any further, it already looks slightly deeper than optimum to me.
answered 1 hour ago
TetsujinTetsujin
8,38821935
answered 1 hour ago
TetsujinTetsujin
8,38821935
answered 1 hour ago
TetsujinTetsujin
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answered 1 hour ago
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It does look high. This could be due to a couple of factors.
The neck may be bent. All guitar necks have a slight bend in them - it's called relief - to stop the strings buzzing on any frets. But too much relief will give your symptoms, and is remedied in part by tightening the trussrod. Not recommended to be done by the inexperienced.
The action may simply be high due to the saddles/bridge being too high. On a lot of guitars, the bridge has a couple of adjusting screws that lower and raise the whole bridge. Others have individual saddles which are adjustable for each string's height. Some have a bridge that cannot be altered except by shaving some off it.
Without a view of the whole of the neck, it's difficult to say more, but lower guage strings often help, as they are not under so much tension, thus being easier to fret. Last resort would be deepen the nut slots, but not particularly recommended.
edited 37 mins ago
Tetsujin
8,38821935
answered 1 hour ago
TimTim
106k10107269
add a comment |
It does look high. This could be due to a couple of factors.
The neck may be bent. All guitar necks have a slight bend in them - it's called relief - to stop the strings buzzing on any frets. But too much relief will give your symptoms, and is remedied in part by tightening the trussrod. Not recommended to be done by the inexperienced.
The action may simply be high due to the saddles/bridge being too high. On a lot of guitars, the bridge has a couple of adjusting screws that lower and raise the whole bridge. Others have individual saddles which are adjustable for each string's height. Some have a bridge that cannot be altered except by shaving some off it.
Without a view of the whole of the neck, it's difficult to say more, but lower guage strings often help, as they are not under so much tension, thus being easier to fret. Last resort would be deepen the nut slots, but not particularly recommended.
edited 37 mins ago
Tetsujin
8,38821935
answered 1 hour ago
TimTim
106k10107269
add a comment |
It does look high. This could be due to a couple of factors.
The neck may be bent. All guitar necks have a slight bend in them - it's called relief - to stop the strings buzzing on any frets. But too much relief will give your symptoms, and is remedied in part by tightening the trussrod. Not recommended to be done by the inexperienced.
The action may simply be high due to the saddles/bridge being too high. On a lot of guitars, the bridge has a couple of adjusting screws that lower and raise the whole bridge. Others have individual saddles which are adjustable for each string's height. Some have a bridge that cannot be altered except by shaving some off it.
Without a view of the whole of the neck, it's difficult to say more, but lower guage strings often help, as they are not under so much tension, thus being easier to fret. Last resort would be deepen the nut slots, but not particularly recommended.
edited 37 mins ago
Tetsujin
8,38821935
answered 1 hour ago
TimTim
106k10107269
It does look high. This could be due to a couple of factors.
The neck may be bent. All guitar necks have a slight bend in them - it's called relief - to stop the strings buzzing on any frets. But too much relief will give your symptoms, and is remedied in part by tightening the trussrod. Not recommended to be done by the inexperienced.
The action may simply be high due to the saddles/bridge being too high. On a lot of guitars, the bridge has a couple of adjusting screws that lower and raise the whole bridge. Others have individual saddles which are adjustable for each string's height. Some have a bridge that cannot be altered except by shaving some off it.
Without a view of the whole of the neck, it's difficult to say more, but lower guage strings often help, as they are not under so much tension, thus being easier to fret. Last resort would be deepen the nut slots, but not particularly recommended.
edited 37 mins ago
Tetsujin
8,38821935
answered 1 hour ago
TimTim
106k10107269
edited 37 mins ago
Tetsujin
8,38821935
edited 37 mins ago
Tetsujin
8,38821935
edited 37 mins ago
Tetsujin
8,38821935
8,38821935
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TimTim
106k10107269
answered 1 hour ago
TimTim
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Only you can determine if the string action is too high. Lowering the action can give problems with string buzz, and especially if you are striking the strings hard. But give it a go to lower the action. The guitar gets easier to play with lower action.
Another thing you could try is to just change to thinner strings. Thicker strings gives more tuning stability and a slightly heavier sound, but they also makes it harder to play.
But yeah, from the picture I'd say that the action is VERY high. You probably should make the groves in the nut deeper.
answered 1 hour ago
BromanBroman
48513
What is it about thinner strings and tuning stability? I use .008s and have no problems.
– Tim
1 hour ago
@Tim The lower the tension, the less stable the tuning is. If you play really hard, thin strings may become a problem. If you want to investigate this effect, try to tune a string down a fifth or so and see how easy it is to bend. You will bend the note by just pressing it to hard against the fretboard.
– Broman
1 hour ago
In best part of 50 yrs with such strings, and a very good action on all my guitars, I suppose I've learnt not to press harder than necessary, and my playing is in tune. So, it's not the tuning that's out in your statement, it's more the propensity for a player to play it out of tune.
– Tim
1 hour ago
Yes you are right. It's not so much about the guitar going out of tune, but more that it effects your ability to play in tune.
– Broman
1 hour ago
1
@Tim It's simple physics. The formula is f=sqrt(T/d)/2L where f is the frequency, T is the tension, d is the linear density and L is the length of the string. With higher linear density is, a certain change in tension will have less effect on the frequency.
– Broman
1 hour ago
|
show 1 more comment
Only you can determine if the string action is too high. Lowering the action can give problems with string buzz, and especially if you are striking the strings hard. But give it a go to lower the action. The guitar gets easier to play with lower action.
Another thing you could try is to just change to thinner strings. Thicker strings gives more tuning stability and a slightly heavier sound, but they also makes it harder to play.
But yeah, from the picture I'd say that the action is VERY high. You probably should make the groves in the nut deeper.
answered 1 hour ago
BromanBroman
48513
What is it about thinner strings and tuning stability? I use .008s and have no problems.
– Tim
1 hour ago
@Tim The lower the tension, the less stable the tuning is. If you play really hard, thin strings may become a problem. If you want to investigate this effect, try to tune a string down a fifth or so and see how easy it is to bend. You will bend the note by just pressing it to hard against the fretboard.
– Broman
1 hour ago
In best part of 50 yrs with such strings, and a very good action on all my guitars, I suppose I've learnt not to press harder than necessary, and my playing is in tune. So, it's not the tuning that's out in your statement, it's more the propensity for a player to play it out of tune.
– Tim
1 hour ago
Yes you are right. It's not so much about the guitar going out of tune, but more that it effects your ability to play in tune.
– Broman
1 hour ago
1
@Tim It's simple physics. The formula is f=sqrt(T/d)/2L where f is the frequency, T is the tension, d is the linear density and L is the length of the string. With higher linear density is, a certain change in tension will have less effect on the frequency.
– Broman
1 hour ago
|
show 1 more comment
Only you can determine if the string action is too high. Lowering the action can give problems with string buzz, and especially if you are striking the strings hard. But give it a go to lower the action. The guitar gets easier to play with lower action.
Another thing you could try is to just change to thinner strings. Thicker strings gives more tuning stability and a slightly heavier sound, but they also makes it harder to play.
But yeah, from the picture I'd say that the action is VERY high. You probably should make the groves in the nut deeper.
answered 1 hour ago
BromanBroman
48513
Only you can determine if the string action is too high. Lowering the action can give problems with string buzz, and especially if you are striking the strings hard. But give it a go to lower the action. The guitar gets easier to play with lower action.
Another thing you could try is to just change to thinner strings. Thicker strings gives more tuning stability and a slightly heavier sound, but they also makes it harder to play.
But yeah, from the picture I'd say that the action is VERY high. You probably should make the groves in the nut deeper.
answered 1 hour ago
BromanBroman
48513
answered 1 hour ago
BromanBroman
48513
answered 1 hour ago
BromanBroman
48513
answered 1 hour ago
BromanBroman
48513
48513
What is it about thinner strings and tuning stability? I use .008s and have no problems.
– Tim
1 hour ago
@Tim The lower the tension, the less stable the tuning is. If you play really hard, thin strings may become a problem. If you want to investigate this effect, try to tune a string down a fifth or so and see how easy it is to bend. You will bend the note by just pressing it to hard against the fretboard.
– Broman
1 hour ago
In best part of 50 yrs with such strings, and a very good action on all my guitars, I suppose I've learnt not to press harder than necessary, and my playing is in tune. So, it's not the tuning that's out in your statement, it's more the propensity for a player to play it out of tune.
– Tim
1 hour ago
Yes you are right. It's not so much about the guitar going out of tune, but more that it effects your ability to play in tune.
– Broman
1 hour ago
1
@Tim It's simple physics. The formula is f=sqrt(T/d)/2L where f is the frequency, T is the tension, d is the linear density and L is the length of the string. With higher linear density is, a certain change in tension will have less effect on the frequency.
– Broman
1 hour ago
|
show 1 more comment
What is it about thinner strings and tuning stability? I use .008s and have no problems.
– Tim
1 hour ago
@Tim The lower the tension, the less stable the tuning is. If you play really hard, thin strings may become a problem. If you want to investigate this effect, try to tune a string down a fifth or so and see how easy it is to bend. You will bend the note by just pressing it to hard against the fretboard.
– Broman
1 hour ago
In best part of 50 yrs with such strings, and a very good action on all my guitars, I suppose I've learnt not to press harder than necessary, and my playing is in tune. So, it's not the tuning that's out in your statement, it's more the propensity for a player to play it out of tune.
– Tim
1 hour ago
Yes you are right. It's not so much about the guitar going out of tune, but more that it effects your ability to play in tune.
– Broman
1 hour ago
1
@Tim It's simple physics. The formula is f=sqrt(T/d)/2L where f is the frequency, T is the tension, d is the linear density and L is the length of the string. With higher linear density is, a certain change in tension will have less effect on the frequency.
– Broman
1 hour ago
What is it about thinner strings and tuning stability? I use .008s and have no problems.
– Tim
1 hour ago
What is it about thinner strings and tuning stability? I use .008s and have no problems.
– Tim
1 hour ago
@Tim The lower the tension, the less stable the tuning is. If you play really hard, thin strings may become a problem. If you want to investigate this effect, try to tune a string down a fifth or so and see how easy it is to bend. You will bend the note by just pressing it to hard against the fretboard.
– Broman
1 hour ago
@Tim The lower the tension, the less stable the tuning is. If you play really hard, thin strings may become a problem. If you want to investigate this effect, try to tune a string down a fifth or so and see how easy it is to bend. You will bend the note by just pressing it to hard against the fretboard.
– Broman
1 hour ago
In best part of 50 yrs with such strings, and a very good action on all my guitars, I suppose I've learnt not to press harder than necessary, and my playing is in tune. So, it's not the tuning that's out in your statement, it's more the propensity for a player to play it out of tune.
– Tim
1 hour ago
In best part of 50 yrs with such strings, and a very good action on all my guitars, I suppose I've learnt not to press harder than necessary, and my playing is in tune. So, it's not the tuning that's out in your statement, it's more the propensity for a player to play it out of tune.
– Tim
1 hour ago
Yes you are right. It's not so much about the guitar going out of tune, but more that it effects your ability to play in tune.
– Broman
1 hour ago
Yes you are right. It's not so much about the guitar going out of tune, but more that it effects your ability to play in tune.
– Broman
1 hour ago
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@Tim It's simple physics. The formula is f=sqrt(T/d)/2L where f is the frequency, T is the tension, d is the linear density and L is the length of the string. With higher linear density is, a certain change in tension will have less effect on the frequency.
– Broman
1 hour ago
@Tim It's simple physics. The formula is f=sqrt(T/d)/2L where f is the frequency, T is the tension, d is the linear density and L is the length of the string. With higher linear density is, a certain change in tension will have less effect on the frequency.
– Broman
1 hour ago
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i'd like to see another pic of more of the neck, because that is starting out at one heck of an angle; so either the neck is bent way out of true, or the action at the 12th fret is about half an inch:
– Tetsujin
1 hour ago
If you press a string down onto both the first and highest fret, how much distance is there between the string and the frets halfway up the neck?
– Your Uncle Bob
20 mins ago